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hafele and keating experiment
May 2009 
What would you do if time didn't matter?
ruth
Someone please, get me out of this racetrack!
Hafele and Keating Experiment
"During October, 1971, four cesium atomic beam clocks were flown on regularly scheduled commercial jet flights around the world twice, once eastward and once westward, to test Einstein's theory of relativity with macroscopic clocks. From the actual flight paths of each trip, the theory predicted that the flying clocks, compared with reference clocks at the U.S. Naval Observatory, should have lost 40+/-23 nanoseconds during the eastward trip and should have gained 275+/-21 nanoseconds during the westward trip ... Relative to the atomic time scale of the U.S. Naval Observatory, the flying clocks lost 59+/-10 nanoseconds during the eastward trip and gained 273+/-7 nanosecond during the westward trip, where the errors are the corresponding standard deviations. These results provide an unambiguous empirical resolution of the famous clock "paradox" with macroscopic clocks."
J.C. Hafele and R. E. Keating, Science 177, 166 (1972)
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“As long as we believe in sequential time, we see “becoming” instead of “being.” Beyond time, we are all one.”
[Richard Bach - The Bridge Across Forever]
Do you think that it is possible for people to truly experience time in an objective manner?
wow. wow. wow. I just realized wow rhymes with now. to me that's a big deal. :-) I am very much enjoying being “here” now. :-)
and I think I'll read Bridge Across Forever again someTime. :-)
Flatland is a cool, classic read as well. That brings me to Joseph because I think the perception (culturally & individually) of existing in 3 dimensions, a “shadow” of what is, interacts with our experiences of what is. So, I'm not sure that time is objective in the “is” state of reality. It may present in different ways.
Like, how do you, personally, create a 4D square in your head? We can't quite orchestrate in our consciousness a true tesseract manifestation (it's 4D & we only agree on what's 3D). We perceive the 3D shadow of the 4D square because we can't make all the angles 90 degrees in our currently playing reality. Personally, I use the concept of all time “is” to create the square (wow, and it doesn't look like the 3D shadow!). Do other people experience time like that? I don't know. Are we supposed to agree on the experience? I don't know.
Perhaps, at higher planes of existance, you and I can be as subjective as we want because, like a synapse, our auric fields can brush and all that is you will be conveyed to me (and vise versa).
humbly reporting from 3D,
~ the scribe
I agree to the existence of time in a way other than humans experience but I don't believe that we can truly experience it(yet?) as it truly is. Your 4D square that you create in your head, is it really a 4D square, if you have never really concretely experienced it? It seems to me that the image produced is more one of how you believe a 4D square would be like if you could experience it than the 4D square as it actually exists.
When we all know the truth like we know the color of grass, or the feeling of raindrops on our skin; maybe then we can be as subjective as we want without fear of being misunderstood, or spreading something that is not the truth. Until then, it might serve us better to be humble about our existence, than to stretch ourselves out onto a plane we do not truly know.
Perhaps, at the highest plane of existense, there is no subjectivity at all.
I don't think I am convinced that what you are experiencing is the 4D square itself; however, I believe in your experience of the 4D square, and I believe it is genuine and beautiful as the 4D square itself is.
Wow rymes with now indeed
And NOW after reading the comments above, I feel less alone.
At work each patient has a paper chart on which is recorded the time they arrived, the time they saw the nurse, the time they saw me initially, the time they were reassessed the time of the call to the consultant the time the consultant answered the phone, the time the consultant arrived…. ad nauseum and each of these times is duplicate recorded into the computer supposedly at the exact 'time' each of things happened including the time I injected the anesthetic and the time I reduced the shoulder and the time they came round again and the time they went for repeat Xray …oops, I missed mentionning the time of the initial Xray!
oh no! I am going to hell, I forgot to record the time the first 500cc of saine ran through…the time police will chase me down and demand I recreate the exact times so that they can analyse time management as a concrete truth and we can all become increasingly enslaved to the fabrication of linear time making enaging interconnected presence with each breath and touch seem as unreal as a fresh breeze in a prison cell.
Wait a minute… I already am in HELL!
Thank you all again for prying at the bars a bit.
:)
ruth – I work at a 9-1-1 dispatch center in which we constantly must record the time as well. I commented about this very same thing on B.B.'s blog entry. your comment here made me laugh and shiver with recognition. :-) -dawn
Thank you synonym for light, I just read the BB blog and responses you made reference to.
You point through the tyranny of a job obsessing the recording of time, to this: now now now now now now. Thank you again and for the record your comments:
“…working at 911 I say the time hundreds of times a day. the computer time stamps every single time I hit enter. I ask people to hold a moment. I thank them for their patience. I thank them for waiting. I ask how I can help. I keep going. I reevaluate my priorities over and over with each moment - what is the most important thing to do now? and now? and now? and now? I can't stop anything from coming and I can't go back and fix anything. and I say the time over and over and over and it keeps being the same question- what is the most important thing now?
today we sent the fire dept and the ambulance and the sheriff's deputies as fast as they could go to a place where the whitewater flows fast around rocks. a couple had fallen in. one was still in the water, unconscious, not breathing. it turns out it was a family. the mom fell in. the dad went in to get her. the young daughter stood on the shore watching. the mom got out. the dad must've hit his head. he drowned. he died despite all efforts to revive him….you can't stop time or save it. no amount of saying the time and recording what time it was when the call came in, when the responders arrived, when cpr was begun, how long it was done and what time is was when the doctor said stop cpr can bring that man back to life. no way he could have known that the car ride to see that wild river was the last he would share with his wife and daughter. nor any way they could have known. I hope they cherished those moments. I hope they were enjoying the moments right up to the last ones.
we can only chose to cherish, to enjoy, to be full. ”
I think that it's interesting how many of my friends here on gaia are also caregivers. lots of us have to record the time often. most of us live in the now anyway.